Showing posts with label 401k. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 401k. Show all posts

Friday, September 14, 2007

Reasons For Not Participating in a 401(k) Plan

Occasionally the topic of retirement savings comes up at work. I'm amazed at some of the thinking.

One colleague made the comment that if he had $50,000 he could retire. Being an immigrant, I thought perhaps he was planning to return to his home country and live in a mud hut. But I didn't pursue the topic. Then a couple of years later, he was looking at needing to retire and told me that all he had was Social Security. When I asked about his 401(k) he said that he wasn't participating. When I asked why he said "It might go down". Well, with a 50% employer match and 100% match after 5 years, it has to go down a lot to lose money. And if afraid that "it might go down" the plan offers a money market fund. So he lost out on the employer match for 6 years at this employer. And with the relatively small amount he could have saved, he would pay very little if any taxes on his distributions if he spread it out over a number of years.

Another fellow employee told me that he wouldn't participate because he didn't want his money in our employer's stock. Yes, it's a good idea to diversify. But beginning last year, those who were vested had the option to sell their company stock and chose other investments. After the conversation, I got to thinking that maybe he thought his contribution had to be invested in company stock. Which was never the case, although that has always been an option.

Another colleague who is participating thought that the only way to get funds of the employer match out of the company stock was to pursue our unique option of being able to have up to a certain limit distributed each year -- he wasn't aware of the plan change last year allowing diversification.

Before making decisions about participating in your employer's 401(k) plan, get a copy of the Summary Plan Description and read up on the rules. And if it's been awhile since you've read yours, get a fresh copy because they can be amended periodically, and review the information there.

Any other excuses for not participating?

Thursday, September 6, 2007

No 401(k) for Snow

In a recent post, I discussed the Zeroeth Law of Financial Security (spend less than you earn)and gave the example of Tony Snow not being able to make it on $168,000 per year.

Seems it's even worse, according to this editorial. While not the main point of the editorial, it stated:
......., it was clear that he had relied entirely on others to save for his retirement. Snow conceded: "As a matter of fact, I was even too dopey to get in on a 401(k). So there is actually no Fox pension. The only media pension I have is through AFTRA [a union]."

Tony needs to get serious about his own personal finances, or hope that the union pension is lucrative. Even maximum Social Security benefits if he waits until the age of 70 to start them will be less than 24% of the $168,000 he couldn't get by on. And the benefits would be about the same as an average worker makes.

Hopefully Tony will beat his cancer. If so, I expect we'll be seeing him on Faux News for a long time to come.

Thursday, December 21, 2006

Pay Debt or Save for Retirement

The anonymous blogger over at "My Retirement Blog" discusses this issue http://www.myretirementblog.com/pay-debt-or-save-for-retirement.html .

That blogger gives the example of John Smith, who has mended his spendthrift ways but has a $25000 debt at 15% interest to handle. His employer offers a 401k plan with dollar-for-dollar matching up to 3% of salary. The advice on the other blog is to pay off the debt first before contributing to the 401k plan because the $3750 in interest exceeds the amount that could be obtained from a company match on 3% of salary for those making less than $125K/year.

That math-challenged blogger obviously never graduated as an engineer, or any other profession requiring math skills. It's illogical to give up the 100% immediate return from the company match for a 15% return from credit card debt. Yes, I know that tax considerations can narrow the difference a bit, but not enough to overcome the difference between 100% and 15%. If John Smith is close to retirement and has no tax-deferred savings, he might not pay any taxes at all if he keeps his annual distributions low. Let's take a closer look at the numbers. I use spreadsheets to perform this type of analysis.

In order to save the $3750 in interest over the next year, John Smith need to have $25K in hand to immediately pay off the credit cards. If he did, then what's the problem? Pay off the debt and then participate in the 401K.

To round out the scenario a bit more realistically, let's say John makes $100K per year and has trimmed his expenses so he can devote $2000/month towards improving his net worth. If he applies it all to the credit card debt, after 12 payments he has reduced the balance to $3298, improving his net worth in one year by $21701, and spent $2298 in interest. So John didn't eliminate $3750 in interest payments but reduced it by a good deal.

On the other hand, if he participates in the 401K plan to get the 3% match he reduces the amount he can pay towards the debt not by the $250/month contribution but by less than that because taxes are not taken from the contribution (yet). Say John's marginal combined federal and state income tax rate is 30%. The $250 contribution reduces his take home pay by $175/month. By paying $1825/month ($2000 less $175) against the credit cards, he reduces the balance over the same one-year period to $5548, improving his after-tax net worth by $19451, and spending $2448 in interest.

By participating in the 401k, John's after-tax net worth is $2249 less after one year than it would have been had he applied the entire $2000/month to the credit card debt. But much more than offsetting the $2249 is the $6000 plus any earnings in his 401k account. Yes, John has yet to pay taxes on that money but his tax rate would need to exceed 62% to offset the difference.

The only scenario where it makes sense to pay off debt before participating in a 401K with a 100% match from the employer is if the interest rate on the debt is much, much higher. If John had payday loans, I would recommend he pay them off first.

Priorities should be (in descending order):

  1. Make minimum credit card payments and build up a small emergency fund, say $1000.
  2. Contribute to your 401k to get the company match, even if the match is only 50 cents for every dollar.
  3. Pay off high interest credit card debt.
  4. Contribute the maximum to a Roth IRA, and build up your emergency fund to at least 3 months expenses. In John's case I'd slow down paying on the credit card debt after knocking the balance down and fund a Roth IRA for tax year 2007 by April 15, 2008. Reason being the opportunity cost of not contributing to the Roth IRA.
  5. Consider longer term savings options, such as increasing your 401k contributions if you are close to retirement and have a low balance, or paying a bit ahead on your mortgage if you plan to stay in your house after retiring.

My engineering mindset led me to analyze this a bit deeper than a shot from the hip as the other blogger apparently did, and I came up with a better answer.